Robust Dynamic (Cascading) Dropdowns Without VBA

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Recently I posted about how you could construct dynamic (cascading) dropdowns that could easily handle multiple levels, like this:
Chandoo_CascadingDropdowns_Earliglow

…and we saw that users could subsequently change upstream dropdowns in a way that would make downstream choices invalid, like this:
Chandoo_CascadingDropdowns_Embarrassing
In my previous post I used some VBA to clear out any ‘downstream’ choices if anything ‘upstream’ changed:
Chandoo_CascadingDropdowns_Downstream Reset

Updated for 2024:

Please see my latest article on Dependent Drop-downs using XLOOKUP to implement a simpler and scalable technique. It works great when you have two or multiple levels and can be expanded to an entire table column or sheet column.

A much simpler alternative

My sample file drew on Roger Govier’s excellent approach on the Contextures website, which used two dynamic named ranges to feed the data validation lists, one called MainList and one called SubList. Roberto commented that you could achieve pretty much the same thing with no VBA and with just one validation formula. His approach is pure genius!

Here’s a sample file that utilizes Roberto’s approach:

Click here to download the file

This approach uses a validation formula with a couple of relative references in it. Relative references look for cells that are some predetermined distance left/right and up/down from the active cell. Here’s his formula, which was entered into the Name Manager while cell B8 was selected:
=IF(ISBLANK(Sheet1!C8),IF(DataEntry[#Headers] Sheet1!B:B = DataEntry[[#Headers],[Main Category]],OFFSET(ValidationLists[[#All],[Main Categories]],1,,COUNTA(ValidationLists[Main Categories])),OFFSET(ValidationLists,0,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,COUNTA(OFFSET(ValidationLists,,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,,1)),1)))

This formulas assumes:

  • You use Excel Tables for both the Validation List and the data entry area, and so uses the associated Structured References that Table functionality allows.
  • Your validation table is called ValidationLists
  • Your data entry table where the dropdowns are is called table is called DataEntry.
  • The column containing your initial dropdowns is called ‘Main Category’
  • The validation list in your validation table that contains your initial categories is called ‘Main Categories’

You will have to amend this formula accordingly if your tables or initial columns have different names.

The relative reference in this formula checks both the cell to the immediate left AND the cell to the immediate right of your current selection. Entering relative references into the Name Manager can be tricky…you first need to select the cell where the formula was originally created – in this case B8 – before you fire up the Name Manager dialog box. (Note that it doesn’t actually matter whether your own file has anything in C8 or not, or whether in fact your dropdowns are somewhere else entirely…rather it’s just that the above formula happens to refer to A8 and C8, and because we want our formula to always reference the cell on the immediate left and immediate right, then we’ve got to select the cell B8 which is in the middle.

Excel Tables – known as ListObjects to VBA developers – were introduced in Excel 2007, and are a very powerful and simple way to store things like lists, chart data, and PivotTable data…especially if you might need to add more data to your spreadsheet at a later date, and want to avoid having to repoint all your formulas to include the additional data. If you’re not familiar with Excel Tables – or you don’t know what that Table1[#Headers] guff above means – then I strongly suggest you check out Chandoo’s Introduction to Structural References or give GOOGLE a spin.

How does this awesome beast work?

Let’s step through it, bit by bit. Note that I’ve put some extra spaces in after each opening formula bracket, purely so this formula will wrap nicely on your monitor. Excel just ignores these extra spaces, so don’t bother taking them out.

=IF(ISBLANK(Sheet1!C8),IF(DataEntry[#Headers] Sheet1!B:B = DataEntry[[#Headers],[Main Category]],OFFSET(ValidationLists[[#All],[Main Categories]],1,,COUNTA(ValidationLists[Main Categories])),OFFSET(ValidationLists,0,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,COUNTA(OFFSET(ValidationLists,,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,,1)),1)))

That first bit in bold above checks the cell on the immediate right. If that cell on the right is not blank, then that means that the user has already made ‘downstream’ selections. We don’t want the user to change this ‘upstream’ dropdown without clearing those out. Thanks to the IF statement, if that’s the case then none of the rest of the formula gets executed, and the formula just returns FALSE. Data validation can’t handle this FALSE, so users can click on the dropdown button all they like, but nothing will come up. Consequently, the user simply can’t change this ‘upstream’ selection until they’ve first cleared out any selections they previously made in the cells to the right. Pure genius.

Here’s what that looks like:
Chandoo_Robust Dropdowns without VBA_No dropdown
Chandoo_Robust Dropdowns without VBA_Retrospective change
Sweet! Okay, let’s take a look at the rest of the formula:

=IF(ISBLANK(Sheet1!C8),IF(DataEntry[#Headers] Sheet1!B:B = DataEntry[[#Headers],[Main Category]],OFFSET(ValidationLists[[#All],[Main Categories]],1,,COUNTA(ValidationLists[Main Categories])),OFFSET(ValidationLists,0,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,COUNTA(OFFSET(ValidationLists,,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,,1)),1)))

That bit in bold above checks whether the dropdown is the Main Category column. It does this using the INTERSECT operator, which is a space between two references (in this case of DataEntry[#Headers] B:B the INTERSECT operator is the space between DataEntry[#Headers] and the column reference B:B. Such a space tells Excel to go to the overlap or intersection of those two references, which in this case is the junction between the header row and the column that our dropdown is in.

  • If the current dropdown is in the Main Category column, then this bold bit:
    =IF(ISBLANK(Sheet1!C8),IF(DataEntry[#Headers] Sheet1!B:B = DataEntry[[#Headers],[Main Category]],OFFSET(ValidationLists[[#All],[Main Categories]],1,,COUNTA(ValidationLists[Main Categories])),OFFSET(ValidationLists,0,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,COUNTA(OFFSET(ValidationLists,,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,,1)),1)))
    …serves up just the list containing our initial categories (i.e. ‘Fruit’, ‘Vegetables’, or ‘Other Stuff’ in this example).
  • If the current dropdown is not in the Main Category column, then this bold bit:
    =IF(ISBLANK(Sheet1!C8),IF(DataEntry[#Headers] Sheet1!B:B = DataEntry[[#Headers],[Main Category]],OFFSET(ValidationLists[[#All],[Main Categories]],1,,COUNTA(ValidationLists[Main Categories])),OFFSET(ValidationLists,0,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,COUNTA(OFFSET(ValidationLists,,MATCH(Sheet1!A8, ValidationLists[#Headers],0)-1,,1)),1)))
    …serves up the particular list relevant given the previous choice made in the dropdown to the left.

Wicked, eh!

Normally I don’t advocate the use of volatile functions such as OFFSET if there is a non-volatile alternate (and you’ll hear more about volatility from me in a forthcoming post). But as Roberto points out in his original comment, in this case it doesn’t matter…choices made via dropdowns are not considered volatile by Excel, even if the formulas used to populate that dropdown are volatile.

Like Roger’s approach, Roberto’s approach can handle any number of cascading levels, provided all the category names are unique. All you need to do is simply add the new subcategories to the right hand side of the validations table.

Thanks Roberto…I learned a lot from those comments. Readers, be sure to visit the Frankens Team and check out the crazy things Roberto, Kris & Gábor get up to with Excel.

Download the sample file

Here’s a sample file that utilizes Roberto’s approach:

Click here to download the file

Updates

Check out the updated 2024 version of this technique with XLOOKUP. The formulas are much simpler and it works with any level of validations.

You may also want to check out my good pal Doug Glancy’s approach to this. His version of dependent dropdowns uses Conditional Formatting to alert the user, and ultimately, the analyst, that something is amiss. Be sure to say hi to him in the comments while you’re there, and to subscribe to his blog. Anyone who makes up sample files about fictional International Pie Lovers Associations deserves our eyeballs!

About the Author.

Jeff Weir – a local of Galactic North up there in Windy Wellington, New Zealand – is more volatile than INDIRECT and more random than RAND. In fact, his state of mind can be pretty much summed up by this:

=NOT(EVEN(PROPER(OR(RIGHT(TODAY())))))

That’s right, pure #VALUE!

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13 Responses to “Gantt Box Chart Tutorial & Template – Download and Try today”

  1. Oli says:

    Hi Chandoo

    As one of your students I have followed your detailed example through with great success. However, Excel is acting in an unexpected way and I wonder if you could take a look?
    http://cid-95d070c79aef808e.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Gantt%20Box%20Chart.xlsm
    On my version, I have to type 40239 (Which equates to 2 Mar 2010) to get the chart to display 31 May 2010 (which should be 40329)!!??

    Have I done something wrong or is Excel acting up?

    Thx
    Oli
    PS Your example file in 2007 displays correctly.

  2. Dave says:

    Hi,

    I like this idea a lot, but I agree the name is a little drab.

    As an American I may just be seeing things, but to me the combination of lines and bars on your chart looks like a bunch of cricket bats.

    Maybe you could work that into a catchier name. 🙂

    Cheers!

  3. Bob says:

    Here is some code I use to keep the axis synched.
    It may be useful to some of your readers
    It is based on a comment I saw on Daily Dose of Excel.

    Function SynchGanttAxis(Cname, lower, upper)
    'Sets the X min and X max for Category axis

    Application.Volatile

    On Error Resume Next
    '
    'Top Horizontal Axis
    With ActiveSheet.Shapes(Cname).Chart.Axes(xlCategory, 1)
    .MinimumScale = lower
    .MaximumScale = upper
    End With

    'Bottom Horizontal Axis
    With ActiveSheet.Shapes(Cname).Chart.Axes(xlValue, 2)
    .MinimumScale = lower
    .MaximumScale = upper
    End With

    End Function

    Function SynchVerticalAxis(Cname, lower, upper)
    Application.Volatile
    On Error Resume Next
    ' Excel 2007 only
    'Right hand vertical axis
    With ActiveSheet.Shapes(Cname).Chart.Axes(xlValue, 1)
    .MinimumScale = 0
    .MaximumScale = upper
    End With

    End Function

  4. Chandoo says:

    @Oli.. Can you check your file again.. I see 40329...

    @Dave: Even I saw things.. the bars actually looked like lollipops. How about calling this lollipop chart - now that would be yummy and goes along the tradition of naming charts after eatables (bar, pie, donut...)

    @Bob: Superb stuff... thanks for sharing 🙂

  5. Mike H says:

    Hi Chandoo
    This looks really good and I think it can also be applied to show project phases / milestones.

    Question: Thinking further could this be amended to display a project lifecycle (Idea through to Implementation say 7 phases) on one bar / row? Just imagine 20 projects within a programme all on one chart one bar each showing their respective lifecycle stages i.e. on one page.

    Idea: As the Gantt Box Chart this is quite intensive to set up re formatting etc how about the added extra of once you have completed this to "Save as template" i.e. saves the formatting and layout of the chart as a template so you can apply to future charts. Simple to do and will save the time formatting etc again and again and again.
    Therefore tip: Click on your chart demo and then click on Save As template icon (2007) - edit file name and click on save. Ready to use / apply via Templates in Change Chart Type window.

    Thanks and be very interested if the lifecycle question can be resolved

    Mike

  6. Oli says:

    How embarrassing.

    I was obviously suffering from numerical dyslexia. I was one of those days.

  7. Chandoo says:

    @Mike H: You can easily make this chart to work like a generic project lifecycle plan chart. All you have to do is,

    1. in a separate sheet define the steps of lifecycle and various dates in a table (with 5 columns for each of the projects you have).
    2. now use a control cell to input the project name you want to show in the chart
    3. based on the input, use OFFSET Formulas to get the correct data
    4. Rest is same as the tutorial above

    For more info on the dynamic charting visit http://chandoo.org/wp/tag/dynamic-charts/ and http://chandoo.org/wp?s=OFFSET

  8. Your solution is really smart but in the en Excel isn't meant to do stuff like this. I, as a former PM, always thought is was frustrating that you had to do stuff like this for something simple like a Gantt chart. So I built Tom's Planner. And would like to plug it here. I think it really solves the problem you are trying to solve in the most efficient way. Check out http://www.tomsplanner.com for a free account or play around with the demo.

  9. Lopi says:

    Hi there,
    Chandoo - this is really a very nice and helpfull chart - I adopted it, so I can report a forecast or the delay of a certain task (coming from my role as an auditor for projects).
    One topic I´m currently struggeling with: I do have a project lasting for lets say 12 month. For a management reporting, I want to have kind of snapshot, lets say one month back and 2 month in the future. I tried with the offset formula, but failed. Any idea?
    Thx
    Lopi

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  11. David says:

    Hi Chandoo - fantastic xls. One thing I can't figure out how to do is adjust the alignment of the vertical axis. I would like to left align so that I could indent to represent sub tasks. Can that be done? Or is there a better way?

  12. Paul says:

    I've been trying to work out if there's a way to show weekends on the graph. The closest thing I've got is to add them on a secondary axis, but then I haven't been able to keep both axis lined up together! Any ideas?

    Following on from this - is it possible to show things like holidays?

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