This is a Guest Post by Hui, an Excel Ninja and One of the Moderators of our Forums. Please note that this post is unusually large by Chandoo.org standards.
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If anybody asks me what is the best function in excel I am drawn between Sumproduct and Data Tables, Both make handling large amounts of data a breeze, the only thing missing is the Spandex Pants and Red Cape!
How often have you thought of or been asked “I’d like to know what our profit would be for a number of values of an input variable” or “Can I have a graph of Profit vs Cost vs …”
This post is going to detail the use of the Data Table function within Excel, which can help you answer those questions and then so so much more.
- Introduction
- 1 Way Tables
- 2 Way Tables
- Monitor Multiple Variables
- Multiway Tables
- Monte Carlo Analysis
- Iterative Functions and Fractals
- Download Example Workbooks
INTRODUCTION
How often have you thought “I’d like to know what our profit would be for a +/- 10, 20 and 30 % variance in the costs” ?
This post is going to detail the use of the Data Table function within Excel, which can help you answer that question.
The Data Table function is a function that allows a table of what if questions to be posed and answered simply, and is useful in simple what if questions, sensitivity analysis, variance analysis and even Monte Carlo (Stochastic) analysis of real life model within Excel.
The Data Table function should not be confused with the Insert Table function.
DATA TABLE BASICS
The Data Table function is hidden away in different locations within different versions of Excel but apart from the menu location the functionality is the same throughout.
Where is the Data Table Function
Excel 2007/10
In Excel 2007 & 2010 go to the Data Tab, What If Analysis panel and select Data Table
![Data Tables - Excel 2007 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-1.png)
Excel 97-03
In Excel up to 2003 go to the Data Menu and select Table…
![Data Tables - Excel 2003 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-2.png)
Both Excel 97-03 and 2007/10 then bring up the same Data Table dialog box.
![Input Dialog - Data Tables [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-3.png)
… and this simple dialog box is all empowering ?
Yes !
Blue Sky Mine Co
For demonstration of the Data Table function I am going to use a simple profit model of a Gold Mine, “The Blue Sky Mine Co”. This is a fictitious mine but provides a simple model which we can use the data Table function to analyse.
It consists of 6 input variables and a simple cost and revenue model to produce a profit.
![1 way Data Tables - Example - 1 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-4.png)
In our Blue Sky Gold Mine Co model, we can see that if we mine and treat 1,000,000 t of gold ore containing 1.68 g/t gold, we will make A$ 5.452M profit. But what if the inputs change ?
1 WAY DATA TABLES
Lets make a 1 Way Table with our Blue Sky Gold Mine Co example.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “1 Way” Tab or 1 Way Example
![1 way Data Tables - Example - 1 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-4.png)
In our Blue Sky Gold Mine profit calculation example, we can see that if we mine and treat 1,000,000 t of gold ore containing 1.68 g/t gold, we will make A$ 5.452M profit. But what if the grade is more or less than that value of 1.68 g/t ? After all it is only a geological estimate.
This is what the Data Table function is made for.
Next to the model add a couple of columns as shown in blue
Note: Throughout this post you will see the use of 1E6 in formulas which is simpler to write than 1,000,000.
![1 way Data Tables - Example - 2 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-5.png)
The first column is a list of values that will be applied to each iteration of the Column Input Cell
The Top Cell of the second Column contains a formula which will retrieve the answer you want to watch, in this case Profit. It will be displayed as M$.
Now select the entire Blue Area and Select Data Table
This is the Data Table input screen.
![Input Dialog - Data Tables [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-3.png)
The tricky/confusing part here is that in our example we are changing the input value to our Gold Mine Profit model using a Column of Numbers, so enter $C$6 in the Column Input Cell, Leave the Row Input Cell blank.
![1 way Data Tables - Example - 3 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-6.png)
Click Ok
You can now see a Table of Profit Values for each Grade Value.
![1 way Data Tables - Example - 4 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-7.png)
The variance in the Profit can easily be graphed against the Gold Grade and we can now see that if the Gold Grade is below about 1.55 g/t Au we will not make a profit and conversely if it is above 2.0 g/t Au we will make a large profit.
![1 way data tables - outputs in a chart [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-8.png)
Before we move onto 2 Way Data Tables it is worth exploring small variations on One Way Tables.
What if my Data is in Rows?
Had our input data been arranged horizontally in Rows, we could have used a Row Input Cell to process the data.
![1 way data tables in a row [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-9.png)
What if I want to vary the inputs by a certain Percentage ?
Another Scenario is often where you want to vary an input by a Fixed Percentage.
This is easily done using Data Tables
Setup the input cells with the percentage variations you want to examine, noting that the values don’t have to be evenly spread.
Setup a Temporary Input Cell, This will hold the Percentage Variance briefly whilst calculations are happening. Set a default value of 0 (zero)
Change your Main Input Cell, Gold Grade in our case, to Multiply the fixed answer by 1+ the temp Input Cell.
Run the Data Table with a Column Input Cell, which will refer to the Temp Input Cell.
![1 way data tables - inputs in %s [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-10.png)
2 WAY DATA TABLES
So the Boss comes in and asks, what Happens if the Gold Grade changes as well as the A$/U$ Exchange Rate?
You guessed it, Two Way tables to the rescue.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “2 Way” Tab or 2 Way Example
Two way data Tables work the same as One Way Data Tables except that you can vary 2 parameters at once.
With Two Way Data Tables you need to setup a Column of data for one Input and a Row of data for the second Input. The answer is returned at the intersection of the Row and Column.
Here we have setup a Column of Gold Grades ranging from 1.5 to 2.1 g/t Au and a Row of Exchange rates =varying from 0.70 to 1.00 A$/U$
![2 way data tables - Example 1 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-11.png)
Note at the intersection of the Row and Column there is a Reference to the variable you want to monitor in this case profit.
![2 way data tables - Example 2 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-12.png)
You can now see the variance in Profit for variations in Gold Grade and Exchange Rate.
What about varying by Percentages?
Once again we can re-arrange the input variables to examine percentage changes in the inputs via a Temporary Input Cell.
![2 way data tables - Example 3 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-13.png)
MONITORING MULTIPLE VARIABLES
So you have a complex model and want to monitor a number of input and output variables at once. No problems, Data Tables to the rescue.
In this example we are varying one input variable but monitoring 3 Output variables, 2 input variables and then doing a calculation all as part of the Data Table.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “Monitor Multi variables” Tab or Monitor Multi Variables Example
![2 way data tables - Example 4 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-14.png)
The first 3 columns, Total Cost, Revenue and Profit are output variables even though Total Cost doesn’t change, we can still monitor it to make sure our model is working correctly
The next 2 columns, Gold Grade and Gold Price are input variables even though only Gold Grade is being varied.
The last column Cost per Oz is not calculated as part of the model (ok sometimes we forget don’t we), but it can be calculated on the fly as part of the Data Table.
The result is:
![2 way data tables - Example 5 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-15.png)
MULTIWAY DATA TABLES
But I hear you thinking, “If Data Tables are so good why can I only Change 2 variables at Once? I want to change more! “.
No Problems
Data Tables in fact allow you to Change any Number of input variables at once and monitor any number of input and output variables. It does however require a slight of hand.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “Multi Way Tables” Tab or Multiway Table Example
First things first,
Setup a table of what scenarios you want to examine:
![Multi-way Data tables - Example [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-16.png)
Setup the Data Table area to monitor Inputs, Outputs and Calculated Fields
![Multi-way Data tables - Example 2 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-17.png)
Note that the Input Data Column will be used to select the Scenario No.
Also note that we have setup F2 to retrieve the Scenarios Name.
And in H6 we will put the Scenario name into the Data Table, who said Data Tables were only for Numbers!
Next Link the Model to the scenario
![Multi0way Data Tables - Setting up Scenarios [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-18.png)
And run the Data Table
![Multi-way Data tables - Example 3 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-19.png)
Note how the Description Column is populated with the Scenario’s Name (Text values)
So now when your boss asks you what effect the price of … has on the budget, you know where to turn.
MONTE CARLO SIMULATIONS IN EXCEL
Monte Carlo simulation (or analysis) as its name suggests puts an element of gambling into the scenarios, or more correctly allows you to measure the effect of variability on input parameters.
This is done by running scenarios against your model hundreds or thousands of times and changing the inputs each time and then measuring the effects at the end of the runs.
And Data Tables can do that? Absolutely!
First some statistics.
Everything in life has variability, from the size of Zebra’s Strips, The height of people and the Arrival times of trains, the time that people read this post, the time that it takes people to read this post.
Most things are variable around a central or mean (average) value. The spread of variability is commonly known as the distribution.
Distributions can have many names and shapes, but common ones are
- Normal: Bell shaped around a mean
- Uniform: All values have an even chance of selection
- Exponential: Low or High values have a much higher probability that the other values
In life most distributions are Normal in nature indicating that the distribution is Bell shaped around a mean with a known method of describing the variability around this.
Excel has 2 functions that produce Random numbers, Rand() and Randbetween(). These 2 functions both have a Uniform Distribution, that is any value between the minimum and maximum values will have the same probability of being chosen.
We can convert a uniform distribution to a Normal distribution by some simple maths (simple to do, not simple to explain).
=norminv(rand(),mean,standard_dev)
Example =NORMINV(rand(),100,10)
Will generate a distribution of random numbers centred on 100 with a spread having a bell shaped curve with a standard deviation of 10. This means that the function will produce a number with a 99.7% probability of being between 70 and 130 and on average will have a mean of 100.
Monte Carlo simulations
So how can I use this and Data Tables to do Monte Carlo simulations.
Before we go any further the author wants to explicitly state that he is not suggesting that the use of Normal Distributions for the variables modeled below is appropriate, except for the purpose of demonstration of the principles behind Monte Carlo Modelling.
As with all models you need to have a good understanding of the distribution of inputs before you start playing with simulations or of which Monte Carlo is but one type. ie: Rubbish In Rubbish Out.
We can model an input vaiable, in this case Exchange rate with a distribution instead of a fixed value and then run the model a number of times and see what impact the variation has on the output.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “Monte Carlo (Simple)” Tab or Monte Carlo (Simple) Example
The formula =NORMINV(RAND(),0.92,0.02), will generate a Random Exchange Rate with a distribution based on a mean on 0.92 A$/U$ and a spread of approximately 6 cents each way ie: there will be a 99.7% probability of the exchange rate being between 0.86 and 0.98 A$/U$.
Copying the formula down from H6 to H1005 will allow our data table to generate 1000 iterations of the model each with a randomly generated Exchange Rate.
In the model above, you can see that for a Base case exchange rate of 0.92 the profit is $M 5.452, however after running 1000 simulations the profit is actually $M 5.7134. More important is that you can now run statistics on the model to tell what is the probability of the profit being greater than 0.00 based on variance in the exchange rate etc.
Note 1: You will note that in the above data table that the Input Column (darker blue) has the formula for calculating a random input grade from a distribution. =NORMINV(RAND(),0.92,0.02)
This is a Volatile Formula , ie: It recalculates every time the worksheet changes.
What this means for the worksheet is that when the Data Table goes to Calculate Row 2 of the Data Table it will recalculate the Input value for Row 1.
On Calculation of Row 2, It doesn’t change the Table Values for Row 1, just the Input Column value.
So after 1,000 calculations of the Data Table, the Input Column values will have no relationship to the data from the original Calculations stored in the Data Table body area.
To make up for this we also add an Input variable to the Data Table.
Doing this allows the Data Table to capture and store both the Input variable and corresponding Output variable in the Data Table’s Body.
Note 2: Always run at least 1000 iterations of Monte Carlo models. This is to ensure that you have a statistical chance of getting sufficient outliers (extreme values) to make the variance analysis meaningful. This is important because as the number of iterations increases the variance of the average output decreases.
Press F9 a few times and watch the average H6:H1005 change.
Try changing the Data table from 1,000 rows to 10, 20 or 100,0000 rows. As the number of iterations increases the variance in the average of the output decreases.
Advanced Monte Carlo Simulations
We can now put our knowledge of Data Tables and Monte Carlo Simulation to the test by varying 4 input variables at the same time.
This is shown in the attached Excel Workbook on the “Monte Carlo (Advanced)” Tab or Monte Carlo (Adv) Example
In the example below we have inserted distributions for 4 input variables.
| Ore Tonnes | Mean 1,000,000 tonnes | Standard Deviation of 100,000 tonnes |
| Gold Grade | Mean 1.68 g/t Au | Standard Deviation of 0.1 g/t Au |
| Gold Price | Mean 1,200 U$/Oz | Standard Deviation of 100 U$/Oz |
| Exchange rate | Mean 0.92 A$/U$ | Standard Deviation of 0.02 A$/U$ |
![Monte-carlo Simulations in Excel - 3 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-22.png)
And setup a data Table for the 4 Input Variables and main output variable, Profit.
![Monte-carlo Simulations in Excel - 4 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-23.png)
Note: When this model is run through the Data Table, note that the Row or Column input cells can be set to anywhere. The Model is not using the value of the Input Cell (Row or Column) and isn’t even using the Run No (Column F) for the model, the data table is simply being used to run lots of iterations of the model, with the variability coming from the Random Numbers in the 4 input cells.
ITERATED FUNCTIONS INCLUDING FRACTALS
At a meeting in early 2005, the company I was working for was looking at an integrated Scheduling & Budgeting system.
The salesman gave a great demo except that the system would take approx. 30 mins to calculate our budget as opposed to a half a second in Excel.
Complaining I mentioned that our current, Excel based, system could do the job in seconds.
And he returned stating that “the system was doing a lot of things Excel couldn’t do”.
I responded “but Excel can do anything”
and he immediately shot back that “Excel can’t do a Mandelbrot”
To which I responded “Yes it can”
And he responded “Not without VB Code”
Without too much thinking I responded that I would accept the Challenge.
The attached file, which is described below is my response.
Excel Mandelbrot
![Mandelbrot Fractals in Excel - 1 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-24.png)
The attached file is an implementation of the classic Mandelbrot implemented in Excel without the use of VBA code.
A Mandelbrot is a graphical display of the simple equation Zn+1 = Zn2 + c, where Z is a complex number (x +iy).
Which is described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
This can be solved in the real X-Y domain using:
Xnew = Xold2 – Yold2 + X_Orig and
Ynew = 2 * Yold * Xold+ Y_Orig
Study of iterated functions reveals that these functions will either converge on an answer or diverge once a boundary has been breached
In the case of the Mandelbrot, this function diverges after the function Z2 > 4
So to construct a Mandelbrot a program needs simply to
- Loop from Xmin to Xmax in small steps and
- Loop from Ymin to Ymax in small steps and
- For every X, Y Point in the above 2 loops, solve the above equations until the answer is > 4
- Color the screen according to how many iterations it took to diverge or not
Simple…
Except that Excel doesn’t have any looping functions unless you use VBA Code
The calculation of the solution for any X, Y starting point is simple enough using a series of Rows and Columns where each Cells is the starting iteration of the solution for each various X, Y co-ordinate.
This is shown in the Calculations page in the Xnew, Ynew, Xold, Yold, Rsq and Count columns.
The iterations are simply done in the Xnew and Ynew columns
For each iteration we check that the Z2 value hasn’t diverged (not > 4) (Xnew2 + Ynew2)
And keep track of how many iterations it took to diverge, the Count Column
The above 5 lines I refer to below as the Calculator.
![Mandelbrot Fractals in Excel - 2 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-25.png)
The trick to working out how to do this for a X-Y Grid was the use of the Table Function to send the starting positions to the Calculator and return the Count for that location.
This is the large Yellow Area.
![Mandelbrot Fractals in Excel - 3 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-26.png)
The Large yellow area (Data Table Area) is flanked on the Top and Left by the X and Y co-ordinates for a grid encompassing the area which we want to plot.
The Table Function extracts the Top and Left values and puts them in the X Orig and Y Orig positions of the calculator.
The Calculator returns the Count of the Divergence of the Calculator to the H2 position (Top Left corner of the Grid) and that value is stored at the Grid Location.
![Mandelbrot Fractals in Excel - 4 [Data Tables & Monte Carlo Simulations in Excel]](https://img.chandoo.org/l/mc/data-tables-monte-carlo-analysis-27.png)
The Data Table repeats this for each position in the X-Y Grid.
An Excel Surface Chart can then Chart the Large Yellow area in effect creating a Traditional Mandelbrot plot by joining up adjacent areas of equal value (Contouring).
The Chart can also be displayed as a 3D-Surface rather than a Contour Chart for a dramatic effect.
Zooming In can be added by adding code that allows the user to say Right click in the Large Yellow area and the code will then take the Co-ordinates and Zoom in by a fixed factor
Zooming Out can be added by adding code that allows the user to say Double click in the Large Yellow area and the code will then take the Co-ordinates and Zoom out by a fixed factor
DOWNLOAD EXAMPLE WORKBOOKS
Download the complete example workbooks described above and practice data tables on your own.
- Click here to download Gold Mine Monte Carlo Simulations & Data Tables workbook. [XL 2003 version here]
- Click here to download Excel Mandelbrot workbook.
Note: A few people have said the above files either Hang or Freeze there PC’s. This is probably because they have a number of large Data Tables within them.
I have uploaded each Tab as a separate Excel 2007 file, see below:
1. 1 Way.xlsx
2. 2 Way.xlsx
3. Monitor Multi Variables.xlsx
4. Multiway Table.xlsx
5. Monte Carlo Simple (updated)
6. Monte Carlo (Adv).xlsx
In the Example Files some of the Data Tables have been removed and there are instructions on how to re-instate them included in the file.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Speed
If you start adding a number of Data Tables to Complex Models you will rapidly cause even the fastest machines to grind to a halt.
VBA
The best way around the above speed issue is to setup a number of Data Tables for whatever analysis you wish to undertake. Then as you run each analysis copy the Data Table Data Area, The area between the Rows and Columns and paste it as values over itself. Then move onto the next data table and run it.
This allows the Data Tables to be quickly recalculated if required.
This process can be automated via 3 lines of VBA code for each Data Table.
‘Calculate Data Table in F5:H18, using Column Input cell C9
Range(“F5:H18”).Table ColumnInput:=Range(“C9”)
‘Copy Data Area as Values
Range(“G6:H18”).Copy
Range(“G6:H18”).PasteSpecial Paste:=xlPasteValues
‘Repeat Above for each Data Table
‘Deselect Current Range
Application.CutCopyMode = False
Cell Contents
If you look at a cell in a Data Table you will see something like:
- {=TABLE(,E5)}: for a Column Input Cell
- {=TABLE(E4,)}: for a Row Input Cell
- {=TABLE(E4,E5)}: for a Row and Column Input Cell
Although these appear like Array Formula, they cannot be manually set.
So setting up a data table and typing =TABLE(,E5) Ctrl-Shift-Enter, only produces an error message.
Further Reading & References
- http://www.exceluser.com/explore/statsnormal.htm
- http://www.vertex42.com/ExcelArticles/mc/GeneratingRandomInputs.html
- http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda366.htm
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
- http://chandoo.org/wp/2011/06/20/analyse-data-like-a-super-hero/
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32 Responses to “Extract Numbers from Text using Excel VBA [Video]”
Interesting that you are posting this at the same time as Doug http://yoursumbuddy.com/regex-function-sum-numbers-string/
Looks like two different articles about two different subjects, extracting numbers in text vs. summing all the numbers in text. Also, articles are published 20 days apart. Is the interesting part that there were two articles written about Visual Basic techniques within this month?
Sorry, that should have said 1 day, not 20. Was looking at the wrong thing. I still think it's just a nice coincidences to have multiple articles about VB written. Dick Kusleika also routinely writes about VB at dailydoseofexcel.com
What a lucky coincidence. I know about Doug's blog, but havent had a chance to read it in a while. Thanks for sharing the link.
I think that the best lesson that can come from the several salary survey solutions is that one should have anticipated the variety of monetary units. If the survey utilized drop down currency lists and limited the salary field to whole numbers only, etc. the resulting input would have been far cleaner. Sorry, Chandoo, but the messy input was, in my opinion, self-inflicted.
You are right. Since there are more than 200 different currencies, I thought a currency field would complicate the survey. The bigger problem was, Google Docs (which I used for survey) does not have an option to capture only numbers. Input fields were by text, so people entered in lots of different formats.
But I am happy how it turned out. It taught me several lessons on how to clean data.
Next time I will use a better tool to capture such responses.
Your post made me check how the "regular" and "irregular" decimal separators look like in different countries and it appears to be really interesting case. Take a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark
Cheers.
I am pretty sure you can replace this code block from your article...
If Text Like "*.*,*" Then
european = True
Else
european = False
End If
with this single line of code...
european = Format$(0, ".") = ","
Just to follow up on my previous post, I think I may have misunderstood the intent of your code. You were not looking to see if the computer system was using a dot for the decimal point, rather, you were looking to see if the Text was using a dot as the decimal point, weren't you? If so, then you could use this single line of code as to replace your If..Then..Else block...
european = Text Like "*.*,*"
But what if the number in Text was not large enough to display a thousands separator? Or what if it were a whole number? In either of those cases your original test, and my replacement for it, will fail. Maybe this would be a better test...
european = Right(Format$(Text, "."), 1) = ","
You are right. I am checking if the text has European format. And I loved your one line shortcut. I did not think of using LIKE in such context. Thanks for sharing that.
Again, you are right that this method would fail if the number is not big enough for a thousands separator. Since my data has annual salaries, all numbers are usually in thousands. So I did not think about it.
Hi ,
I have a question please. I'm working on a report that has alphanumeric on it and I only need to retrieve 7 integers that starts with 7 and 3 example SCM RIS PX RIS 02 - 7152349, ADSF\243434134, CM532345 and i need to get the 7152349. Can you please help me on this? I truly appreciate your help!
Thank you very much!
Hi-
The post was wonderful. Please take a look at this function also
Function ExtractNumber(InputString As String) As String
'Function evaluates an input string character by character
' and returns numeric only characters
'Declare counter variable
Dim i As Integer
'Reset input variable
ExtractNumber = ""
'Begin iteration; repeat for the length of the input string
For i = 1 To Len(InputString)
'Test current character for number
If IsNumeric(Mid(InputString, i, 1)) Then
'If number is found, add it to the output string
ExtractNumber = ExtractNumber & Mid(InputString, i, 1)
End If
Next i
End Function
Thank you so much. Your function code is amazing. It very useful for my lesson. Thank you so much.
To be more international.
At the beginning, for the rench format :
If fromThis.Value Like "*.*,*" Or fromThis.Value Like "* *,*" Then
european = True
End If
And at the end :
ElseIf ltr = "," And european And Len(retVal) > 0 Then
retVal = retVal & Application.DecimalSeparator
End If
Hi Chandoo,
Sorry, but your code does not work correctly with my Hungarian excel. My decimal separator is "," so
getNumber = CDbl(retVal)
will not convert the string to value, because you hard-coded "." as separator.
And, as you mentioned: "method would fail if the number is not big enough for a thousands separator" I would like to add: would fail if the user did not enter the thousand separator and also would fail if the thousand separator is not "," nor "." but " " (space chr) - as in Hungary.
This two functions could help to determine the system settings:
application.DecimalSeparator
application.ThousandsSeparator
Conclusion:
you say: "We do not need special treatment for regular format (61,000.30) as Excel & VBA are capable of dealing with these numbers by default." - it is true in case you system uses the regular format. 🙂
Cheers,
Kris
Awesome! It works !!
But how does one take into account negative numbers (say the list has negative numbers and I want to retain those negative numbers)
Thanks.
Hi. When I download this example, my excel is not showing formulas exactly. I wanted a ready version of this example, please. Thank you
Hi Chandoo,
Thanks for this brilliant article like many others that you have written for the benefit of many. Unfortunately, I am constantly having problems downloading your sample workbooks. I am currently using Excel 2007, and each time I try to download any of your sample workbooks, for e.g. the 'Extract Numbers Using VBA workbook', I get the following message 'This file is not in a recognizable format'.
I always get this message each time I try to download any of your sample workbooks. Please kindly advise me on how to resolve this.
Thank you.
Kenny
I have numbers like 12345-12-1 which I want to extract from text strings. 12345 might be variable there as 123, 1234, 12345, 123456,1234567 or so. When I get that in other cell (Column) I should see multiple entries of similar numbers with - (hyphen). How to do that?
@Madhav
Assuming your data is in cell A1
=LEFT(A1,FIND("-",A1)-1)
Thanks Hui for your response. Thank you for your time to find potential solution for my problem.
I tried your formula but was not successful in using the same.
here is more clarification so that you/others could help me.
Column A has following in Cells A1 to A4.. could be long..
ABCD 12345-12-1 XYZ 9878-02-9
LMNOPQ 12345-12-1 STQ 789748-98-5
NFHFKDJFKDS 123-23-1, NDKANSD
A FDSAFNDS 12345-12-1, ASNDSAND
from such data I need to extract the number with hyphens
remove , immediately after the numbers, separate the numbers with spaces
Column B shall look like:
12345-12-1 9878-02-9
12345-12-1 789748-98-5
123-23-1
2345-12-1
2 separate strings (numbers) having hyphen (-) therein should be separated with space.
@Madhev
Have a look at a solution using a simple UDF
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zexf4t9tmxmt3m9/Get_Numbers.xlsm?dl=1
Thanks Hui that worked well with the examples I provided.
I should have given following type of example:
2-ABCD 12345-12-1 X-2-YZ 9878-02-9
in the above case I do not want to extract a number and hyphen which is connected to or is part of text string..
Can you please help me modify the code to ignore numbers and - with text string.?
Thanks in advance.
@Madhav
So what is the answer expected from
2-ABCD 12345-12-1 X-2-YZ 9878-02-9
Thanks for your interest and time Hui.
so when I have text like
2-ABCD 12345-12-1 X-2-YZ 9878-02-9 3-abc-4-efg in Cell A2
in B2 the answer should be only numbers with hyphens and no text with numbers or hyphens
12345-12-1 9878-02-9 OR
12345-12-1 some delimiter (, or 😉 9878-02-9
The logic I thought was (but unable to do)
1. remove all strings containing text (and - and numbers) and then extract only numbers containing hyphens
2. Extract numbers in only following format ( # is a digit below) and ignore numbers and hyphens in any other format
#######-##-#
######-##-#
#####-##-#
####-##-#
###-##-#
##-##-#
Hope this helps.
Why not just use the function =getNumber ?
=getnumber doesn't extract numbers with hyphens..
also need to ignore numbers and hyphens associated with text string
When I use this code that code give me error
cdb1 is not highlight can u explain me
@Deepak
It runs fine for me
Select the first line and Press F9 to set a stop point
goto a cell and edit the function and press Enter
Then you can step through the code when it runs using F8
report back what happens
HI,
How can we add spaces between numbers and removing decimals.
how can we make spaces in the reesult e.g 25 655 2335
Dear Team,
I need to extract number (cheque number) from a cell (some numbers may repeat that to be ignored),
Text is - :-Inward Clg Cheque 00992924 00992924,BD
Result should be - 992924
Kindly help in getting formula for this (please email the code or VBA Code)