Dummy Data – How to use the Random Functions
Using collected or known data is the best when developing Excel models, but from time to time this may not be available when you are developing your model.
This post will look at some options for setting up Dummy Data using Excels Random functions.
Variability
Real data displays a range of variability, but this variability is generally within ranges or distributions of ranges of results.
All fields type can contain variability
ie: Country, State Names and Zip/Postal Codes, Maybe large lists but are fixed
Peoples Names, Maybe a large lists but are fixed by local rules
Ages, generally less than 80, never less than 0
Dates: Rarely before 1990 or 1900 in rare cases
Lists: are fixed
Numbers: generally random or conforming to a fixed distribution or known trend
Numbers: may include integers, decimals, negatives, extremely large numbers or all combinations
In generating random lists you will need to choose if you want random data, random data within constraints or random with a distribution. The choice is really yours and should in part be based on what the data is being used for and how accurately it needs to reflect reality.
Techniques
The techniques described below are all shown with a worked example in the attached Examples File or the Excel 2003 Example
Each example is annotated below like (Example 4.). ie: Refer to Example 4 in the above example files.
Dates
Setting up Random Dates is a simple process using the Date function.
=Randbetween(StartDate,EndDate)
Dates in a Range of Years
=Randbetween(Date(2000,1,1),Date(2011,12,31))
Will give a list of Random dates between 1 Jan 2000 and 31 Dec 2011 (Example 1.)
(Thanx Mike W)
Dates in a Month
=Date(2010, 6, Randbetween(1,30)
Will give a list of Random dates between 1 June 2010 and 30 June 2010 (Example 2.)
Don’t worry that the above formula (Example 1) can actually produce a 31 Feb 2005, the Date function will happily convert that to 3 March 2005 (Example 3.)
Dates within a Date Distribution
=DATE(2011,7,NORMINV(RAND(), 0,60))
Will give a list of Random dates between approximately 1 Jan 2010 and 31 Dec 2010, with a mean of July 1 and standard deviation of 2 Months (60days) (Example 4.)
Where NORMINV(RAND(), 0,60) will return values between -180 and +180, 99.7% of the time
Text Fields
Dependant on how many items in the list you require there are 3 techniques available
Choose
For small lists of less than 6 to 10 items you can use a simple Choose function (Example 5.)
=Choose(Randbetween(1,6),”Item 1″, “Item 2”, “Item 3”, “Item 4”, “Item 5”, “Item 6”)
VLookup
Using VLookup (Example 6.)
=Vlookup(Randbetween(1,List Length), List, 2)
Index
Using Index (Example 7.)
=Index(List, Randbetween(1, Counta(List) ))
Numbers
Small Random List of Numbers
Random from a small list of numbers (Example 8.)
=Choose(Randbetween(1,6), Numb 1, Numb 2, Numb 3, Numb 4, Numb 5, Numb 6 )
Note that the numbers:
- Don’t have to be in any order,
- Can be integers, negatives or contain decimals
- Can be repeated
eg: =Choose(Randbetween(1,6), 18, 21, -19, 36.4, 18, 24)
Random Integers
Return Integers between Start and Finish (Example 9.)
=Randbetween(Start, Finish)
=Randbetween(50, 100)
Will return an Integer between 50 and 100
Random Numbers
=Rand()
Will return a random number between 0 and 1
=Round(Rand()*100, 2)
Will Return Numbers between 0 and 100 with 2 Decimal places (Example 10.)
Random Numbers Based on a Distribution
=Norminv(Rand(), Mean, SD)
Will return a random number between 0 and 1 based on a distribution of Average = Mean and Standard Deviation = SD
=Norminv(Rand(), 50, 17)
Will return a random number between 0 and 100 based on a distribution of Average = 50 and Standard Deviation = 17, (Example 11.)
Random Numbers Fitting a Trend
If your distribution has to match a trend add a Random component to the Trends equation (Example 12.)
Y=mX+c
= rand() * X + rand()*5
= rand() * A2 + rand()*5
True/False
Choose
Use Choose and Randbetween (Example 13.)
=Choose(Randbetween(1,2), True, False)
If
Use If and Rand (Example 14.)
=If(Rand()<0.5, True, False)
Combination Text and Numbers
The above techniques can be combined to make lists of Alpha Numeric Data
Say your business has a fleet of vehicles (TR=Truck, VN=Van, CAR=Car)
=Choose(Randbetween(1,3),”TR”,”VN”,”CAR”) & Text(Randbetween(1,15),”0#”)
Will randomly choose 1 of “TR”,”VN”,”CAR” and add a random number between 1 and 15 to it format with a leading 0, eg: TR05, (Example 15.)
Other Sources of Data
Random Data
There are a number of web sites where Random Data is available.
http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/order.php
http://www.generatedata.com/#generator
http://www.melissadata.com/lookups/
Open Source Data
There are a number of web sites where Open Source Data is available.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/where_to_find_open_data_on_the.php
Function Used:
Rand: Returns a random number between 0 and 1.
Randbetween: Returns a random Integer between lower and upper limits. Pre Excel 2007 Randbetween was only available through installation of the Analysis Toolpak (Thanx Luke).
Norminv: Returns the inverse of the normal cumulative distribution. That is it returns the X value from a Normal Distribution that has a know Mean and Standard Deviation where the a known cumulative percentage is supplied.
Choose: Choose an item from a list of up to 254 items.
Vlookup: Lookup the matching value from a list and return a data item from another column from the same location.
Index: Retrieve an items from a defined location within a range.
Text: Displays a number as Text with a defined format.
Other Uses of Random Functions
Of course the techniques shown here don’t have to be used for setting up Dummy Data.
One area where Random numbers is used is in Monte Carlo Simulation. This has been discussed at Chandoo.org at Data Tables and Monte-Carlo Simulations in Excel a Comprehensive Guide
Techniques
The techniques described above are all shown with a worked example in the attached Examples File or the Examples File 2003 ver
Limitations in Pre Excel 2007 versions
The Excel function, Randbetween, was only introduced in Excel 2007. As such the exaples above will only work in 2007/10.
However a simple alternative is available
Randbetween(Low, High) = Low + Int(Rand()*(High-Low))+1
Randbetween(90, 100) = 90 + Int(Rand()*10)+1
Examples using this approach are shown in the 2003 Version of the Examples files above.
How have you made Dummy Data or used the Random Functions?
How have you made Dummy Data or How have you used it ?
How have you used Random Numbers in your workbooks ?
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21 Responses to “Distinct count in Excel pivot tables”
The distinct count option works well but I have found that if I have a date field and want to group by year, month, etc. that option seems to be disabled. I need to do both, distinct count and group by year/month.
Example data; sales orders with item quantities with dates.
Challenge; sum the item quantities, count the distinct orders and group by month. How do I do this?
Perhaps that's not possible due to the grouping?
@Al... When you use data model based pivots, you cannot group values manually anymore. Why not use Excel 2016's default date grouping option? In this case we have just a few dates, so Excel is not grouping them, but if you have an year's worth of data, when you make the pivot with date in the row label area, Excel automatically groups them. If you have fewer dates or want to use your own grouping, just create a table with all dates, add columns with month, week, year etc. Then connect this table (these types of tables are usually called as calendar tables) to your data on date field as a relationship. Now you can create reports by month, quarter etc easily.
Is this the only way to do it in 2013? I find it rather cumbersome to have to create another data table listing dates with the another column for MONTH() and YEAR() to be able to summarise data for senior level...
I know people find adding calendar tables cumbersome, but it is a best practice and let's you add more layers of analysis quite easily. For example, adding analysis by weekday vs. weekend or by financial quarter or YTD calculations (you would need either Power Pivot DAX or some very carefully setup pivot table value field settings)
I had absolutely no idea this was possible. Very useful, nice work!
Doesn't work for 2010 version though (or at least not my works version)
Hi ,
The post has the following in it :
These instructions work only in Excel 2016, Office 365 and Excel 2013.
when i have 2 different Pivot tables, one without the enabled “Add this data to data model” option, and the other one with it enabled.. is there anyway i can link slicers between them?
if the answer is NO,, what to do ?
Quick note, the “Add this data to data model” option is not available for the Mac version.
perhaps outside scope of this article but I have found when I attempt to create a pivot table from an external data source (connection to a sql view) the "Add this data to data model" becomes greyed out. Anybody experienced and found a solution so I can start getting distinct count in my pivot tables?
Is there a way to still add a calculated field when using distinct count?
I found I can't change the date source after tick the " add this data to the data model", can you help to adv how to change the date source in such case?
Is there a way to update the source once you have added to the data model? I receive a new spreadsheet weekly and would like to update the connection so my tables pull from the new source.
Hi Crhis, I like how you have hulk (superhero) as your avatar. Do you know that there is a superhero in Excel too? It's Power Query. You can use it to solve your problem in a simple click. Here an intro if you need some guidance.
Powerful Introduction to Power Query
A big Thank you. It worked.
Hi, have survey data that I need to analyze but the challenge is that my key fields are showing horizontally. I tried to transpose the fields using Power Query, but unfortunately the new fields are returning same values on a pivot table despite using distinct values
How I can a do a pivot table with discount conts in some columns and then generate shor report filter pages. pls it drives crazy
Hi. Why grand total pivot of distinct count is 13? shouldn't it be 67?
Great Answer! Saved me lots of time!
Thank you!!!
Worked awesome! Thanks!!
Hi Chandoo,
I am using pivot tables for distinct count and now I need to update them with new set of data. But when I update the source data, all the columns and formatting of Pivot table disappears and I need to build it from Scratch.
Is there a possibility that I can update the source data with new rows added and also retain my pivot tables?