Getting the 2nd matching value from a list using VLOOKUP formula

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Situation

We know that VLOOKUP formula is useful to fetch the first matching item from a list. So what would you do if you need 2nd (or 3rd etc.) matching item from a list?

For eg. If you have below data, and you want to find out how much sales John made 2nd time, then VLOOKUP formula becomes quite useless. Or is it?!?

Data:

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Solution

A simple solution to this problem would be sorting our data on sales person’s name. That way all Johns would line up one beneath another. And we just have to find the first John’s position and add 1 to it to get to 2nd occurrence. Like this =MATCH("John", C5:C17, 0) + 1

But sorting is not an option all the time. So there should be a better way to do this?

Well, there is. We just add a helper column before the sales person name and fill it with sales-person’s name & occurrence. (see the below data table).

For this we can use COUNTIF() Formula, like this: =C5&COUNTIF($C$5:C5,C5). Notice the $C$5:C5?, well the mix of absolute & relative references does the trick here and gets John1, John2… etc.

Now, to lookup 2nd occurance of John, all we do is, simply write =VLOOKUP("John2",...) and we are done.

Data for this Example -Getting the 2nd matching item from a list using VLOOKUP formula

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The file includes few examples on how to fetch 2nd, 3rd etc. matches using lookup formulas. It also has some interesting (and challenging) home work for you. Download & play with it.

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14 Responses to “Group Smaller Slices in Pie Charts to Improve Readability”

  1. jerome says:

    I think the virtue of pie charts is precisely that they are difficult to decode. In many contexts, you have to release information but you don't want the relationship between values to jump at your reader. That's when pie charts are most useful.

  2. Martin says:

    Chandoo,

    millions of ants cannot be mistaken.....There should be a reason why everybody continues using Pie charts, despite what gurus like you or Jon and others say.

    one reason could be because we are just used to, so that's what we need to change, the "comfort zone"...

    i absolutely agree, since I've been "converted", I just find out that bar charts are clearer, and nicer to the view...

    Regards,

    Martin

  3. [...] says we can Group Smaller Slices in Pie Charts to Improve Readability. Such a pie has too many labels to fit into a tight space, so you need ro move the labels around [...]

  4. Jon Peltier says:

    Chandoo -
     
    You ask "Can I use an alternative to pie chart?"
     
    I answer in You Say “Pie”, I Say “Bar”.

  5. Karl says:

    This visualization was created because it was easy to print before computers. In this day and age, it should not exist.

  6. DMurphy says:

    I think the 100% Bar Chart is just as useless/unreadable as Pies - we should rename them something like Mama's Strudel Charts - how big a slice would you like, Dear?
    My money's with Jon on this topic.

  7. Mark says:

    The primary function of any pie chart with more than 2 or 3 data points is to obfuscate. But maybe that is the main purpose, as @Jerome suggests...

  8. Chandoo says:

    @Jerome.. Good point. Also sometimes, there is just no relationship at all.

    @Martin... Organized religion is finding it tough to get converts even after 2000+ years of struggle. Jon, Stephen, countless others (and me) are a small army, it would take atleast 5000 more years before pie charts vanish... patience and good to have you here 🙂

    @Jon .. very well done sir, very well done.

    good points every one...

  9. Tim Wilson says:

    I've got to throw my vote into Jon's camp (which is also Stephen Few's camp) -- bars just tend to work better. One observation about when we say "what people are used to." There are two distinct groups here (depending on the situation, a person can fall in either one): the person who *creates* the chart and the person who *consumes* the chart. Granted, the consumers are "used to" pie charts. But, it's not like a bar chart is something they would struggle to understand or that would require explanation (like sparklines and bullet graphs). Chart consumers are "used to" consuming whatever is put in front of them. Chart creators, on the other hand, may be "used to" creating pie charts, but that isn't an excuse for them to continue to do so -- many people are used to driving without a seatbelt, leaving lights on in their house needlessly, and forwarding not-all-that-funny anecdotes via email. That doesn't mean the practice shouldn't be discouraged!

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  11. Good article. Is it possible to do that with line charts?

  12. Michaela says:

    Hi,

    Is this available in excel 2013?

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