Formula Forensics No. 041 – Convert a Roman Numeral to a Number

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Last week in the Chandoo.org Forums a user asked a question

How do I convert a Roman Numeral to a Number eg: MMMCCCLVII to 3357

User Xlstime presented the solution of:

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

Today we are going to look at how and why that simple formula works

As always at Formula Forensics you can follow along using a sample file: Download Sample File

Solution

Excel has a Roman function wherein =Roman(3357, 0) will return MMMCCCLVII

I knew there was no such reverse Roman function prior to Excel 2013 and so my initial thought was to look at a VBA Solution.

See notes on the Arabic Excel function at the end of the post.

However Xlstime presented =MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

How does this work?

lets start by pulling it apart from the inside out

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

The Indirect Function simply takes its inputs and converts them to a Range, in this case 1:3999.

We will study why 3999 later

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

The next function working out is Row()

Excel will convert the function ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”)) to an array of Row Numbers

={1;2;3;4;5;6;7;8;9;10;11; …. 3995;3996;3997;3998;3999}

You can see this if you goto cell D7 in the Sample File, press F2 and then F9

I limited the numbers to 300 as Excel cannot display more than 8,192 digits

Stepping out one more function:

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

The Roman() function converts its inputs into Roman Numbers

eg: Roman(58) will return LVIII

But as we are feeding it an array of numbers from 1 to 3999 Excel handles all these and converts them to an Array of Roman Numbers

Goto  D9 in the sample file =ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:300”))) press F2 and then F9

Excel returns an array of roman numbers

={“I”;”II”;”III”;”IV”;”V”;”VI”;”VII”;”VIII”; … “CCXCVI”;”CCXCVII”;”CCXCVIII”;”CCXCIX”;”CCC”}

We have limited the example to 300 as Excel cannot display more than 8,192 characters when processing  a Function using F9.

 

Stepping out one more function

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

The Excel Index() function is taking the Array of Roman Numerals and Converting it into a single Column array

This isn’t technically needed but it simplifies the solution

If you goto cell D11 in the sample file =INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0) press F2 and then F9

Excel returns an array of roman numbers

={“I”;”II”;”III”;”IV”;”V”;”VI”;”VII”;”VIII”; … “CCXCVI”;”CCXCVII”;”CCXCVIII”;”CCXCIX”;”CCC”}

This is exactly the same as the previous output from the Roman() function above, Except that it is now a Single Vertical Array.  This is important for the next function.

 

Stepping out one more function

=MATCH(A2,INDEX(ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0),0)

We can see here that the Array of Roman Numerals is now being fed into a Match() function.

Match uses the Syntax =Match(Lookup value, Lookup Array, Match Type)

Match returns the position of the Lookup value within the array

So in our example

The Lookup value is A2 or our Roman Numeral MMMCCCLVII

The Lookup Array is an array of Roman Numerals from 1 to 3999

={“I”;”II”;”III”;”IV”;”V”;”VI”;”VII”;”VIII”; … “MMMCMXCV”; “MMMCMXCVI”; “MMMCMXCVII”; “MMMCMXCVIII”; “MMMCMXCIX”}

and the Match Type is 0 or an exact Match

So the Match function will lookup the value MMMCCCLVII in the array and find it in position number 3357, which happens to correspond to the Number of the Roman Numeral and Return 3357 as the result.

Why are we limited to 3999 numbers.

The Excel Roman() function is limited to numbers up to 3999

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Why 3999?

Because in Roman Numerals there is no Letter for 5,000 and 4,000 would be shown as M before the Letter for 5,000.

 

Why did we need the Index() function?

If you goto D17 in the sample file you will see the formula:

=MATCH(A2,ROMAN(ROW(INDIRECT(“1:3999”))),0)

It is the same formula as above but without the Index() function

You will see that it is returning a #VALUE! error

If you edit the formula with F2 and then press F9 to process the function you will see it now shows 3357

What s happening here?

Pressing F9 is the same as Array Entering the Function

so if you edit the function pressing F2 and now Array Enter the function by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Enter, excel now returns 3357

The Index() function puts a wrapper around the array for processing by the Match() function and so Array Entering is avoided.

Most array formulas that require Ctrl+Shift+Enter can be rewritten incorporating an INDEX wrapper and will not require the Ctrl+Shift+Enter confirmation.

The Excel Arabic Function

In 2013, Microsoft introduced the Arabic function to Excel

To use simply use =Arabic(A2) or =Arabic(“MMMCCCLVII”)

You can read about the Syntax of the function in the Excel Help.

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Download

You can download a copy of the above file and follow along, Download Sample File.

 

A Challenge

Can you solve the problem another way ?

Post your solutions in the comments below.

 

Other Posts in this Series

The Formula Forensics Series contains a wealth of useful solutions and information specifically about how Normal Formula and specifically Array Formula work.

You can learn more about how to pull Excel Formulas apart in the following posts: http://chandoo.org/wp/formula-forensics-homepage/

If you have a formula and you want to understand how it works contact Hui and it may be featured in future posts.

 

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26 Responses to “Get busy this weekend, with OR XOR AND [Excel Homework]”

  1. Stef@n says:

    first solution for AND
    The two numbers are in A1 and B1
    = SUBSTITUTE (SUBSTITUTE (A1+B1*9*9, 9, 1), 8, 0)
    regards
    Stef@n

  2. Stef@n says:

    next solution for OR
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;2;1)

    regards
    Stef@n

  3. Stef@n says:

    last solution for XOR
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;2;0)

    regards
    Stef@n

  4. Irvine says:

    Or you could make use of the VBA logical operators!

    Define the following as custom functions
    Public Function BITXOR(x As Long, y As Long)
    BITXOR = x Xor y
    End Function

    Public Function BITAND(x As Long, y As Long)
    BITAND = x And y
    End Function

    Public Function BITOR(x As Long, y As Long)
    BITOR = x Or y
    End Function

    and then use them such:
    A B =BITOR(A,B) =BITAND(A,B) =BITXOR(A,B)
    0101 0100 0101 0100 0001

  5. Stef@n says:

    an another solution for AND
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;1;0);2;1)

    note:
    the binary numbers are in A1 and A2 !
    regards
    Stef@n

  6. Shair says:

    I was obviously playing hooky at the beach during the bit-wise math lesson – you lost me at “Understanding bit-wise operations” 🙂

  7. Anup Agarwal says:

    After looking at the above solutions, I find my solution silly, but still:

    For the following formulae,
    Row 1: headers,
    Row 2: OR
    Row 3: AND
    Row 4: XOR

    Column 1: Input 1
    Column 2: Input 2
    Column 3: Result

    OR
    {=SUM(IF(MID(A2,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(A2),1)),1)+MID(B2,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B2),1)),1)>0,1,0)*10^(LEN(A2)-ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B2),1))))}

    AND
    {=SUM(IF(MID(A3,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(A3),1)),1)+MID(B3,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B3),1)),1)=2,1,0)*10^(LEN(A3)-ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B3),1))))}

    XOR
    {=SUM(IF(MID(A4,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(A4),1)),1)+MID(B4,ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B4),1)),1)=1,1,0)*10^(LEN(A4)-ROW(OFFSET($A$1,0,0,LEN(B4),1))))}

  8. Hui... says:

    @Anup
    Please don't consider your solution silly
    Firstly, You are the 3rd person to submit an answer
    Secondly, The best formula/function is the one that you know and understand.

  9. Michael Azer says:

    I think I have a very tedious solution, which people won't have the patience to do except in small numbers.

    I used the same problem setup as "Anup Agarwal"

    AND =IF(AND(MID(B2,1,1)="1",MID(C2,1,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,2,1)="1",MID(C2,2,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,3,1)="1",MID(C2,3,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,4,1)="1",MID(C2,4,1)="1"),1,0)

    OR =IF(OR(MID(B3,1,1)="1",MID(C3,1,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,2,1)="1",MID(C3,2,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,3,1)="1",MID(C3,3,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,4,1)="1",MID(C3,4,1)="1"),1,0)

    =IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,1,1)="1",MID(C4,1,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,1,1)="0",MID(C4,1,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,2,1)="1",MID(C4,2,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,2,1)="0",MID(C4,2,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,3,1)="1",MID(C4,3,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,3,1)="0",MID(C4,3,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,4,1)="1",MID(C4,4,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,4,1)="0",MID(C4,4,1)="1")),1,0)

  10. Michael Azer says:

    Sorry my last post was totally messed up

    AND
    =IF(AND(MID(B2,1,1)="1",MID(C2,1,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,2,1)="1",MID(C2,2,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,3,1)="1",MID(C2,3,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(AND(MID(B2,4,1)="1",MID(C2,4,1)="1"),1,0)
    OR
    =IF(OR(MID(B3,1,1)="1",MID(C3,1,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,2,1)="1",MID(C3,2,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,3,1)="1",MID(C3,3,1)="1"),1,0)&IF(OR(MID(B3,4,1)="1",MID(C3,4,1)="1"),1,0)
    XOR
    =IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,1,1)="1",MID(C4,1,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,1,1)="0",MID(C4,1,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,2,1)="1",MID(C4,2,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,2,1)="0",MID(C4,2,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,3,1)="1",MID(C4,3,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,3,1)="0",MID(C4,3,1)="1")),1,0)&IF(OR(AND(MID(B4,4,1)="1",MID(C4,4,1)="0"),AND(MID(B4,4,1)="0",MID(C4,4,1)="1")),1,0)

  11. Stephen says:

    @stefan,
    I just couldn't get your solutions to work.
    01010101010 + 01010101110 = 02020210120
    what am i doing wrong?

  12. Stephen says:

    @anup
    ...I got yours to work!

  13. Rich says:

    @Stephen - I get the same, but Stef@an's second solution for AND does work (at least for the test cases I used)

  14. Stef@n says:

    @ Stephen / Rich
    yes , you are right ! - only this works:

    OR
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;2;1)
    XOR
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;2;0)
    AND
    =1*SUBSTITUTE (SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2;1;0);2;1)

  15. Michael Azer says:

    @Stef@n - You're answer is really smart, I never knew about the substitute function before. Great Work!

  16. Stef@n says:

    Thx Michael 🙂
    yes - it is simply easy 😉
    if you add 1 and 1 - excel calculate 2
    and then you have to substitute the 2 - new = 0 respectively 1

  17. Rob says:

    Here is a good resource for people wanting to learn binary and hexadecimal.
    http://justwebware.com/bitwise/bitwise.html

  18. Kyle McGhee says:

    Three that weren't asked for:
    NOT
    =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A1+A2,0,3),1,0),3,1)

    EQV
    =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A1+A2,0,3),2,3),1,0),3,1)

    IMP
    =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A1+SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A2,0,3),1,0),3,1),0,1),2,0)

    (was using Daniel Ferry's bitwise file to verify against)

  19. Q says:

    @ Kyle

    Not only takes one parameter and inverts 0 -1 and 1-0

    Took out the +A2
    =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A1,0,3),1,0),3,1)

  20. Great solutions!

    I'll add two:

    NAND =1*SUBSTITUTE (A1+A2,2,0)

    NOR=1*SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE (SUBSTITUTE(A1+A2,0,2),1,0),2,1)

  21. John Fuller says:

    This will work for binary numbers of any size (although the text format mask will have to have as many zeroes as there are digits in the longest addend)

    Assume binary #s are in C35 & C36, then add and format as text in C37:
    =TEXT(C36+C35,"000000000000")
    -sum- = 101112211112

    AND - SUBSTITUTE 0s for 1s in -sum-, then sub 1s for 2s
    =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(C37,"1","0"),"2","1")

    OR - sub 1s for 2s in -sum-
    =SUBSTITUTE(C37,"2","1")

    XOR - sub 0s for 2s in -sum-
    =SUBSTITUTE(C37,"2","0")

  22. Shane says:

    Just wandered by:

    AND:

    =SUBSTITUTE(A1+A2,1,0)/2

  23. Ronald Vonk says:

    Hi Chandoo,

    I am not (yet) really into bitwise calculation, but I am looking for a way to speed up my vba calculation with very big numbers. Would is ben convenient to use bitwise notation for this?

    Best regards,

    Ronald (the Netherlands)
    p.s. love your country!

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